My wife kim and i were walking north on our morning walk. the air was clear and about 40 degrees. at approximately 6:25 am i looked at the handle of the big dipper and observed multiple objects that were flying from the southeast on the same plane as were mars was low on the western horizon. i pointed them out to my wife and we observed the objects traveling out of sight along a rough line. they were in small groups of 2 or 3 but not in formation. they had no navigational markers like a normal aircraft has. the objects appeared to be reflecting sunlight off of them. each object had about the same brightness as the stars in the big dipper. about 2 minutes into their movement two objects came up from the horizon looking slightly northwest from our position and joined into the group. it was still out and no wind was blowing either. we never heard any sound emanate from them of any kind. about 5 minutes after they had left we watched a couple of commercial jets head south from pdx which is about 50 miles to our northeast. they were in the normal flight path with regular marker lights on the wing tips and we could hear them. we tried to video them but couldnt collect enough light with my wifes i phone to make one. and no they were not the starlink satellites. they will not be visible in our area before tomorrow night and we would have to look south to see them.